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reet?ú thanks.ú ♪ hold0my hand0 >> on fox files, it has been called part of the axis of evil and a socialist nightmare. three generations from the same family control the most repressive place on earth. now this 20 something son armed with news is the new dictator of north korea. is there growing dissent? growi grow>> secret routes helping north koreans get out. >> for the first time this defender speaks. >> he escaped over the river at the narrowest parts. >> what does a hockey rink a banana baby and jennifer esposito have in common?
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>> selceliac disease and you ha the worst case we have ever seen. >> it's what happens with food and what's in it becomes your enemy. >> i am ar they will neville. i am bill hemmer. this is "fox live." >> december 28, 2011, sub zero temperatures and a winter storm gripped north korea as the world's most secretive and oppressive country laid to rest it's supreme leader kim jong-il. the world got a rare glimpse of the sealed off nation. the throngs of north koreans lined the 25 mile route of the funeral procession in a ritual bizarre mourning it's unclear if the maliwailing was genuine or
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motivated fear. >> people would understand if they didn't show sufficient grief. >> much of it was forced. the state wanted them to behave this way. >> and the state was working over time in the days after kim jong-il's death. they were insuring that north koreans did not deviate from official ideology and behavior. >> north korea is the single most closed and repressed society arguably in human history. >> every thought and action is monitored. there's a fear of a blackmer said that will show off to your home one day and take you off. >> you say there are tens of thousands of christians in north korea? >> there is an under ground christian church within north korea. christian organizations ranked as the most persecuted church in the world. we have tens of thousands of christians in the gouge ago.
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>> it is unlike anything we saw in the 20th century. >> most important for the regime is creating a new cult of personality around this man, kim jong-un his father's third son and heir to the kingdom. about whom little is known. >> we don't even know how old he is. north korea hasn't released his birthday. we assume he's in his late 20s but that has never been confirmed. >> what is known is he now commands the world's fourth largest army with 1.1 million soldiers and a nuclear arsenal with 6 bombs. though the population of 22 million act with blind devotion. >> fox news alert i am harris falkner. you are looking outside the super bowl. the dome in new orleans right now. the reason we are showing you this picture on fox news channel
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is because the game inside has come to a halt. completely stopped. they have been like this for almost 30 minutes, 27 minutes and some seconds now. the game stopped because of some sort of a technical problem that happened with the lights, nearly half hour ago. talk of a blown fuse. we do know this. to keep everybody calm inside the superdome there they asked all of the fans to stay in their seats. they pulled the players off the field for their own safety as you might image. unprecedented situation going on inside the dome right now in new orleans. we are showing you this look outside of the dome. wbue is our fox affiliate there. electrical power went out at the super dome early in the third quarter. they had 13 minutes 22 seconds to play. and it was right at the end of a stunner for the baltimore ravens which have led this game pretty
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much from the start. jacoby jones had returned an opening kickoff for a second pass touchdown and there you had it he ran from one end of the field to the next and the lights went out moments later. the teams remaining on just the side lines of the field taken off the actual playing field but on the side lines now for nearly a half hour. we are told nobody has been hurt in any of this and there's no cause for alarm necessarily, although they are looking at lots of different things right now. the blown fuse is the problem they are blaming. they are asking people to stay in their seats. the coaches are pacing the side lines at this point. unprecedented. this is not the game that anybody counted on. it's interesting as you might image all of the expensive commercials that were paid for they are pretty much sticking with this at this point. we will keep you posted on the situation. the lights go out the game stops the super bowl comes to a halt. i am harris falkner live in new
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york. now back to regularly scheduled programming. >> in 1955 the north korean government started the bizarre ideology. >> what it basically says is the north korean people are almost a superior race and they need to determine the future of their country and advance their socialist revolution on their own. we have the tower, a huge white monument with one brick in the monument to symbol every day of the life with kim. a think tank. everything revolved around i am bedding in north korean society the ideology of chuchang. >> in 1994 after decades enslaving north coian people kim
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you wi ill sun died. >> his successor would try to become god like himself. >> kim jong-il is the eldest son born to his first wife. >> kim jong-il is said to have been born or the sacred mountain. this is where by korean legend the korean nation began many thousands of years ago. >> the small mountain cabin where it is claimed she gave birth is now a shrine. >> he was born in russia when his father was with the russian military. >> by the early 1980s it seems that he had carved out a significant niche for himself within the power structure. >> kim jong-il was a character of fun to people in the western world because he was short and had that beau font styled hair and wore elevator shoes. but he was in truth a very
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brutal dictator. >> he had incredibly expensive taste from everything from alcohol to cigarettes and expensive boats. >> it was reported he liked american culture. >> he loved american film. he supposedly had a library of many of thousands of films. he once had a south korean actress abducted. she was kidnapped from the beach in hong kong and taken to north korea and required to become basically his actress place. >> they kidnapped people. that's how they went about it with film and went about it with migrate uncle. >> mike kim's own family experienced the cruelty of the north korean regime. >> migrate uncle was a leading engineer. >> your brand mother's brother. >> my mom and others in the family told me about how during the korean war the north koreans came across the border into
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south korea. they were looking for people that could help them build their infrastructu infrastructure. i asked my grandmother about the story to talk about they never heard from or seen her brother since. >> the country has been a living hell for millions. >> the famine of the late 1990s filled more than a tenth of the population in north korea. >> we have 2-3 until north korean stars. >> we hear stories of people starving to death, people eating tree bark to survive. the worse case scenario are the stories of cannibalism. >> it has gotten better and worse and better and worse since then but it has always been terrible. >> the dynasty conditions today with kim junk unthe spitti -- k
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ju jung-unthe spitting image of his grandfather. >> if you were sent back from china to north korea what could happen to you? >> the punishment is death. this is america. we don't let frequent heartburn come between us and what we love. so if you're one of them people who gets heartburn and then treats day afr day... block the acid with prilosec otc and don't get heartburn in the first place! [ male announcer ] e pill eachmorning. 24 hours. zero heartbur
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>> it has been almost a year since kim jong-un the third son of kim jong-il took power in north korea after his father's death. >> the other sons were perceived to be losers and this was the one who had the potential to be a leader. >> there are some who look at this as an opportunity perhaps he wouldn't be as ruthless. >> he made some statements that indicate he is a little hipper than his father was. he allowed his wife to be shown on tv. he appeared with life size character churs -- caricatures of mickey house. >> he amowed them women to dress
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in a more western fashion. >> there is little difference between him and his father and grandfather. one of the first things he did upon succeeding his father was to issue a shoot to kill order to north korean order guards. he said shoot anybody in the back who is trying to escape. >> they risk everything. they know when they leave north korea they are risking death. >> in 2001 mike kim left everything left behind in chicago and moved to northern china to help north korean detectors. >> lived in the china border hiding out with the north koreans sharing room with livestock in some periods. >> he chronicled some experiences in a book escaping north korea. >> for most americans under ground railroad has a certain history for us you think about 1800's and slavery and the fight to get north of the base mays done dixon line. how would you describe the under
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ground railroad from north korea and china? >> it's 6,000 miles running from north korea through china through southeast asia. >> it's a network of safe houses and secret groups. >> there are contacts along this entire root to help and to aid north koreans. >> some within your network some within another network that is willing to help, and you know people in those cities that are willing to risk housing the north koreans. >> mike founded crossing borders a christian organization devoted to helping north korean refugees. this man whom we will call pong is currently the organization's director. >> why are you in this? >> i help north korean people in china. it's illegal for any one to even feed a north korean refugee. >> if your identity was revealed? >> i could go to jail and more importantly the people that are working for us in china would go
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to jail and north koreans could be executed. we work threw true the under gr church in china we consider ourselves the first link to the under ground railroad. >> when i would first meet a north korean they would come to our shelter they would be scared out of their minds. they would sit as far away from me at the other end of the room as possible. >> in 2008 crossing borders helped this man a 46-year-old north korean detector who fled his country. we agreed not to say his name. >> i had to flee because i helped others from the government. that is a political crime. >> getting out of north korea has the first hurdle. how do they do that? >> one is you can pay for bribes, boerldrder guards on th north korean and china side. the other way during the winter the river freezes over.
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people walk across the ice. >> i went over in broad daylight my daughter another person and myself. we went to the river and pretended to wash our faces and escaped over the narrowest part. >> he interviewed a detector in his small apartment in seoul, south korea. >> how scared were you when you were crossing the border? >> i knew in order to live i had to cross the river and get to the other side. as soon as i got over the first thought that popped into my head was oh, yes, i am alive. >> once you cross from north korea into china it's not like the doors have been flung open for these people. there are dangers in china, too. >> they have zero tolerance policy toward north koreans in china. >> not only the police but china has seasons where they announce to their citizens along the borders to report north korean people to them so they can earn
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money. >> if you were sent back from china into north korea what could happen to you? >> committed treason by leaving the country and the punishment is death. >> his wife and second daughter crossed over into china almost a year later. >> we had an elder leader she called a local church. >> what happens to family members in north korea if it is discovered one of their family members has managed to escape successfully. >> their families would suffer. >> they will face most brutal torture right out of world war ii concentration camps. >> befoafter we fled my brotherd sisters and in-laws were taken to the intelligence officer interrogated. my brother in law was beaten so severely he is practically in a wheelchair. >> with the help they were hidden in northern china preparing to escape from that
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country. in august 2009 they boarded a train heading south with strict instructions. >> thoeld us we could not take anything especially not a cell phone. if you are captured they will be able to trace all of the numbers track down the people who helped you. >> the family spent a week on the train heading toward loose. but -- laos. but to get into china they had to cross the border on foot. >> it is a tough hike. >> we arrived at the embassy though gave us temporary passports to get to seoul. >> the whole family flew to south korea. the detectors knew life after a year and a half on the road to freedom had begun. >> when you arrive at international airport and step on south korean soil for the first time what was your thought? >> i gave a shout of joy. i could finally breet. >> it is worth it to see those
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>> seoul south korea the booming metropolis is only 36 miles from the border of north korea but an entire world apart. 2 years after he led the communist they became citizens of south korea in may 2010. >> kwhawhat was going through y mind when you held your korean citizenship for the first time? >> it was very emotional. it was a strange feeling to become a citizen of the country that i once hated. >> he and his family are
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adjusting to life in freedom. sadly, the same month they arrived in seoul his 7-year-old daughter died of an unknown infection. >> as a parent i always think of the things i couldn't give her. that weighs heavily on my mind. >> sad ending to a long, long journey. >> there's so many mixed emotions for refugees to come out of north korea to china to south korea. >> three generations of the kim family maintained an iron grip on the isolated society in the north. but it has not been completely impenetrable. >> balloons have been going across the dmz since the korean war. originally they would drop leaflets telling people what life was like in south korea. >> one of the women i interviewed her job was to pick up anti north korean propaganda leaflets flown on balloons into
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north korea. why did you pick these anti north korean propaganda leaflets up? because they taught me if i touched anything with my hands they would rot and fall off. >> today the balloons have gone high-tech. they are often gps guided and can drop the information that they contain on a more targeted area. new technology is starting to crack open the hermit kingdom. >> of the telephones and other things giving them windows to the outside world. if junk ill takes them down a path of liberation it means more radical change than he and political elites are willing to accept. the north korean power elite and military have too much invested in the oppression of this
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society. >> it piers kim junk unh-- kim - >> he was fired from all of his duties in july of 2012. other powerful figures remain. this man seen at kim jong-il's funeral is the general secretary of the korean party. over saw the development of north korea's nuclear bomb. >> there has been little indication he is willing to open the country up. he certainly hasn't stopped the nuclear or missile program. the crack down on the people internally still continues. >> as long as it does, organizations like crossing borders will be there to help. what does your faith mean to
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what you are doing? >> it has everything to do with what we do. we believe that god has created everyone equal and that god created me just the same as god created a north korean refugee. >> we have been able to change lives and i would do it all over again. it was very rewarding. >> many koreans look forward to a future where their country is unified. >> absolutely the vast majority of north koreans wish for that day. >> coming up, the medical mystery that almost destroyed a famous hollywood actress. >> this left undiagnosed like i have been for years creates havoc, the place i am in now. >> this tough as nails hockey player. >> the disease began to really take a hold of me. let frequentn come between us and what we love. so if you're one of them people who gets heartburn and then treats day afr day...
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>> i am harris falkner. massive power outage at the biggest game on the planet. lights out for 34 minutes. a look outside the stadium where they are finally playing inside again. this is video from earlier from when the lights went out. it happened short time ago early in the 3rd quarter. baltimore beating san francisco from the very get go. unprecedented at the super bowl, a public address announcement for fans to stay in their seats, players pulled off the gridiron stretching and staying warmed up on the side lines. cheerleaders still dancing and shouting but no game for more than half an hour. the energy corporation which provide power to the dome telling fox news the problem was on the customer's side. meaning something happened inside the dome even the media box had no power for a bit. in the meantime the game has resumed. we will immediately get you back to regularly scheduled kim jonl
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>> what does a famous hollywood actress, a tough hockey player and a woman who grew up in the 1930s have in common? they are all in the center of a medical mystery which may effect 3 million people in the united states. we begin with jennifer esposito's story. >> so you are new york girl all of the way, right? >> i am. born in brooklyn and raised in staten island. i wanted to come into the city and start my acting career. >> growing up in a middle class family, actress jennifer esposito caught everyone's attention with television shows like "spin city" to award winning films like "crash." and her most recent work on cbs's "blue blood." while her hollywood stars were driving she was suffering from an illness that was slowly debilitating her. >> when did you realize or your family realize something was
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wrong? >> when i was a teenager had problems with goading colds and infections, sinus infections all of the time. so much so that i was hospitalized with monday no. >> she would suffer and as a family we would say, okay, she is sick again. >> susan russo is jennifer's older sister. >> at a young age she was suffering with stomach issues. she had mood swings, she had anxiety. >> no answers. how many tests and doctors visit are we talking about? hundreds, thousands? >> i couldn't name the amount of tests between colonoscopies, berrien enemas, everything. >> when you were growing up and jen as you call her was that sister who was saying, something is wrong with me did that take a toll on you and your family? >> yes. and we didn't have an understanding of it. none of the doctors she had gone to came up with a diagnosis.
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>> the money i have spent in trying to make people listen, i sit with therapists over and over. but every time they would give me prozac or xanax and i would say, that's not it. there's something else going on. >> as her career soared jennifer still struggled with her health. it was after 19 long agonizing years a doctor finally gave her an accurate diagnosis. >> i was so ill i could barely walk in there. i think she really saw something two-days after that she had called and said, you have seliac disease and you have the heist case i have ever seen and i don't know how you are existing like this. i had no idea what she was talking about. >> here's the question. what is celiac disease? >> it is an auto immune disease like diabetes or multiple
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sclerosis or rheumatoid arthritis. >> she sat down with the doctor and the forefront of celiac research. he's the director of center for celiac research at the university of maryland. their studies show that one percent of the population or one in 133 people in the united states have the disease. yet only a small fraction know they have it. >> we don't know what makes people sick with diabetes or ms. but it's gluten the food is the one that triggers the auto immune process in celiac disease. >> what is gluten. that's all we hear these days. >> gluten is the most abundant protein in specific grains like wheats rye and barley. we are notable to completely digest this. that's why it creates so many problems. >> when you have celiac disease the gluten has damaged or killed
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the villi. the villi surrounds the small intestines and is what is used to take the nutrients from the food. when they damage and die it's like you are starving yourself and it also led to leaky gut. which is basically like a small hole in the gut where when i eat and i digest anything that slips through those holes and goes into the bloodstream my auto immune system feels like it's getting attacked so it attacks it. >> where is the biggest source of gluten in our diet come from? >> typical source, bread, pasta, pizza, beer, cookies, bagels, cakes. but besides the obvious source the other thing that makes it even more complicated is gluten is used as a filler. it's a wonderful natural filler that you can mix in prepacked
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foods. >> it binds it together. >> wheat gluten. >> great stuff unless your body can't tolerate it. >> the baby didn't have colic? he had celiac disease? >> beside celiac disease there are two other forms of gluten reaction. one is a gluten wheat allergy. the other is newer and known as gluten sensitivity. this also causes your immune system to react and create problems. >> there's a blood test. a simple screening test they are very, very good in identifying this gluten sensitivity. >> do you think jen afrs case got to that point? because poor thing spent years trying to find a diagnosis. >> even when she was diagnosed going gluten free it took much longer than expected to go back to a more acceptable life. her body took a major hit. >> here she is this successful actress in terms of
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stereotyping, they want to say she is difficult. why do you need to eat this? why are you feeling faint? the woman's body is collapseing from the inside out. >> unfortunately a successful young women in that kind of business and you are too finicky or you are exaggerating and gone and so forth. >> what are the symptoms. if someone has xyz that's where you almost demand your doctor check me for celiac disease. >> the symptoms can go from bloating to diarrhea, constipation to no stomach issues which is tricky for most people. i say any time you are feeling sur mountable feeling of exhaustion there's something going on. if you think that there is a possibility that you have it, you want to be safer rather than sorry. you need to get a proper diagnosis. this left undiagnosed i have
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been for years creates havoc, that's the place i am in now. >> today with more people being diagnosed with celiac disease, the market for gluten free products has exploded. >> if you look at the market, north america in 203 the market was very limited. it was roughly $100 million. >> this year alone is valued at $4.2 billion. a gluten free lifestyle isn't cheap. >> i do not leave the health food market with under $100 and i probably go food shopping three or four times a week. >> that's just for you. >> that's just for me. that's just for me fresh fruits and vegetables i buy organic. it's expensive. >> coming up fox files was there when jennifer's battle with celiac disease made headlines. also what do this hockey player and banana baby from the 1930s have in common?
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>> it was like someone took a veil off my face. >> mickey redmond is no stranger to pain. he won two stanley cups playing
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for the montreal canadiens and ended his career as a top goal scorer for the detroit red wings. >> the red wings put a lot of pressure on redmond. he is the voice for hockey fox 2k50e9. >> when were you finally diagnosed with celiac? >> i remember going to many, many different doctors. at the time we are talking early 70s. they would say you have got this, this or this or this over here. i said well what is this over here? that was we don't know. as it turns out 20-years later around 1994 i got diagnosed with celiac. >> going back to when you were younger in your 20s you had the symptoms what was going on? >> the lifestyle we led as professional athletes in those days wasn't exactly a lifestyle that would be copyed by a lot of
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people or should be. there was cigarettes involved and few beers and you are not supposed so feel real good when you do stuff like that. as a result you get used to feeling poorly. >> what clued you in, though? this is a little bit beyond oh sure i am a hockey player we are drinking beer and smoking cigarettes. >> the disease began to really take a hold of me. i broke out -- you get really bad and sensitive to it. i was sleeping a lot. >> as he experienced early on gluten is found in many other products besides food. >> with celiac everything that goes into your mouth and is ingested but you have to worry about mouthwash, toothpaste, shampoo all of those things. i remember six months later standing in the bathroom still
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getting sick wondering i am clean as a wiles. might have been a bottle of lister reason or something like that. i went, wow. wait a minute. the alcohol or whatever is in it depends on the source and all that. >> just like mickey jennifer is always careful with what she eats which for her is even more challenging. fox files accompanied her on a visit with her doctor. >> we are going to go over your oral gees in addition to the celac, gluten and dairy. we have almonds, beef, chocolate, egg yolk, bananas, broccoli, peanuts, onions, cod fish, soybeans and chicken in addition to the barley rye oats and wheat and all of the other gluten grades. >> it is ridiculous. >> as a result she is constantly creating her own gluten free
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recipes. >> look at these babies. >> jennifer's cookies. >> your chocolate chip cookies. >> i love these cookies. i swear to god. >> well done. >> thank you. >> should we do the cookie dance. >> i know, i know. >> after i make some i am like, whoa. i am serious. >> someone said you can never have this for the rest of your life? >> i would be done. >> in a weird twist of fate little did they know they had something common with this won. >> i was born in 1936 and i came to the hospital when i was 9 months old. >> meet barbara hudson also known as a banana baby. during the 1930s she was one of the first reported cases at the university of maryland where they treated children with the mysterious symptoms that we now know as celiac disease. >> do you remember the symptoms your mother told you what was happening to you?
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>> evidently i had diarrhea, i was not gaining weight. so then they told my mother to bring me down to the university hospital to drop me off don't come see her for six weeks. but i said for over 9 months and the hospital became my home. >> after you left the hospital, once they leased you what diet did they put you on? >> baked bananas and bavarian buttermilk. >> the routine was she would bake 3 bananas a day. i would eat one for breakfast one for lunch and one banana for dinner. >> how long did you stay on this banana diet? >> for about two years then the pediatrician said he thought we could add other foods to my diet. he would add a different food each week. and finally at the age of 6 i had my first ice cream and milk.
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a >> what did you think? >> i thought it was wonderful. >> why bananas? >> bausz they contain all of the salt, the nutrients and some protein that allows you to survive. >> jennifer, mickey and barbara have each shed light on the mystery of celiac disease. >> i tell you my day has been consumed with bringing information -- between a blog, jennifer's, jennifer foundation on celiac education everything i do to bring awareness. >> i do spend a lot of time talking to people on the phone about it. i speak to team about it. i am more than happy to do that to help them get through the early stages of this. especially younger kids. >> if there is a good gluten free recipe i will pass it on to somebody else with celiac
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>> that is jennifer esposito starring along side donnie wahlburg on blue blood. little did we know back in september when fox files interviewed her about celiac disease there was turmoil behind the scenes. in october they put out this statement. >> jennifer informed us she is only available to work on a limited part-time schedule. as a result she is unable to perform the demands of her roles and we regretfully had to put
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her character on a leave of absence. she is a wonderfully talented actress and we hope she will be able to return at some point in the future. >> jennifer sat down exclusively with fox files to give us her side of the story. >> when blue blood goes on on friday night twitter starts going crazy. someone released pictures of him and a new partner. they don't like that. pem don't like change especially with donnie and what had happened. there was such a surge in where is jackie, actually go jackie was trending one night. not blue bloods, go jackie was trending. cbs the next day put out a statement i saw it and immediately was like, oh, really? no. no, no. let me out of my contract and put me back to work or pay me what you owe me. >> she took to twitter with her response.
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>> cbs put me on unpaid leave and has blocked me from working anywhere else after my dock said you needed reduced schedule celiac. >> they have a job to get it done. you don't think i could do it in the 2, 3 days i am offering? i get it you have to replace me. but that's not what happened. what happened was ugliness. >> tell me the day you collapsed onset. >> i got in the van i fell asleep on the way to the set. i felt my head spinning. i got out took a step and my knees just went down to the floor i caught myself in a fence. they brought me into the neighboringup room again i fell. they said i'll get the medic. we were like there's nothing -- unless you can kaur me of celiac disease we have been trying to tell you there's no medic right
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now. they had to carry me into the car and bring me to the doctor where i went and i was there for 7 hours. >> where does it stand with you and cbs right now as we speak? >> last week i believe i was told i was on suspension which meant i am still in contract not being paid. i can't start working on any tv show on network. i can do a film or broadway or something on cable that doesn't go in the 10:00 time spot. they have my contract without pay yes it is illegal but they knew i didn't have the money or means to sue them. i have been in the business for 20-years. there has been so many things of injustice that happens in this business. it's what you sign up for, it is what it is. this, though, is something that is not about me i feel. this is about a disease that
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